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  JW Org Flags at R.C.

  by ToesUp in

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  2. beliefs

  photo was posted on jw-archive.

  j.w.org flags flying at the 2015 r.c.

  in fribourg, switzerland..

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  Edited to add that post has been cropped on right margin. Maybe it's just me and my Mac.

  What first comes to mind is the "Standfasters," whom I believe were Bible Students of the WWI era. They took a stand against praying for the country, if I recall correctly. They were criticized by their leaders for not conforming to Society directives.

  What happens when the Watchtower Society makes a mistake? In 1984, Karl Klein a member of the Governing Body, addressed this issue in the October 1, 1984 Watchtower page 22. He says, "World War I was raging, and even though the most prominent brothers had been unjustly imprisoned over the war issue, the need for Christian neutrality was not fully appreciated by those taking the lead. A few who saw the issue clearly took offense and separated themselves from the Bible Students, calling themselves Standfasters. They warned me that if I stayed with the Bible Students I would lose out on being of the 'little flock' of Jesus' anointed followers." Karl Klein although he appears to have agreed with the Standfasters in principle, goes on to say, "Mother, though not yet dedicated, helped me to make the right decision. I could not see myself leaving those from whom I had learned so much, and I decided to take my chances with my Bible Student brothers. It was a test of loyalty."

  Did the Watchtower organization make a mistake? Apparently so because just prior to World War II, they adjusted their viewpoint. Their new viewpoint was now identical to that of the Standfasters. (See the Watchtower, Dec. 1, 1981 pg. 29.) This is a perfect example of the Watchtower's position that it is not important if the organization is right or wrong. What is important is loyalty to the Watchtower Society. The fact that faithful followers of the organization believed in a position before the organization did, was not looked at with favour. Apparently it was not as important who was right but who was loyal to the organization.

  http://www.jwinfoline.com/Documents/Watchtower_organization/is_loyalty_more_important_than_truth.htm
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  Local Elders whip the Congregation into a frenzy about donating to the Organization

  by James Jack in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  because of the may broadcast about how funds are down, our elders have been in their talks "encouraging" or pressuring everyone to donate more to the world wide work.. it freaks me out how we already give them a set amount of $600 a month, plus what is contributed by the congregation(usually $400 to $500 a month).

  heck, our local congregation bank account even got below $500 for the first time this past may since i have been doing the accounts(4 years now).

  for june, we raised a whopping $2400 to send into the branch.. the most amazing part, is that only a select few contribute on a regular basis every month.

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  Does that make me a prophet?

  Perhaps, a non prophet . . .

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  Could this happen to you?

  by adjusted knowledge in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there was a jw who was a born in and faded about 10 years ago near a congregation i attended.

  he never married or had children and was in his late 30's.

  his parents shun him for the most part but then he had a major stroke.

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  Hi Rip:

  I have had to deal with this when incapacitated. It sure creates a disturbing scenario.

  Hard even to discuss . . .

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  What's the Worst Gossip You Heard About Why You were DF'ed, Faded or Left and Never Came Back? They say "I am gay!"

  by PhilsWager2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  your going to enjoy the latest rumor i heard why i have not been to meeting for around nine months, i am a homosexual!

  i was caught having a drink at one of the gay bars for business, yes people still talk business in bars.

  revelation 17:4).and murderers, and fornicators (cf.

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  I just learned that I was kicked out of Bethel for immorality. I am hurt that a loved one continues to sling mud at me at every opportunity.

  My JW friends know better. They love and respect me.

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  The Great Apocalypse is Coming in July - Here is a Preview

  by DT in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  trailer for the first book of the sparlock of the multiverse trilogy.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouvwf1mncog&feature=youtu.be.

  here is a recording of the prologue:.

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  Looks good, DT!

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  Okay I believe the Andre thing now.

  by Sharpie in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  before, i was thinking, this whole thing with the character the writing department has must be a coincidence.

  they must use other names?.

  nope.

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  Last year's special talk (following the Memorial) featured Andre.

  I wanted to ask the speaker afterwards about the frequent appearance of this popular, ubiquitous brother, but I was at a loss how to couch the potentially outing question.

  A year has passed, so I'm letting him out . . .

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  Disturbing hidden image in w15 04/15 page 9 (Not DF image)

  by campaign of hate in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  could someone do me a favor and post the picture on page 9 on the above mentioned watchtower.. i'll point it out, very surprised no one else has picked up on this creepy image..

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  Dear Friends:

  I applied for but did not receive the privilege of working in the WT art department. It must have been my inappropriate rendering of a pointillism Nebo -- Assyrian god -- during auditions that axed me. I wound up a proofreader instead. [See Aid to Bible Understanding, page 1121.] Then again, it may have been my cleansed leper, overjoyed and bounding about as his swaddling cloths unfurled and cascaded to his feet. I never learned why . . .

  If you check out a link I provided earlier re: Commercial Artists' View of WT Art, you'll find Seven006's comments very revealing about what WT art is not. He worked there. He did not agree with my offerings.

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  Disturbing hidden image in w15 04/15 page 9 (Not DF image)

  by campaign of hate in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  could someone do me a favor and post the picture on page 9 on the above mentioned watchtower.. i'll point it out, very surprised no one else has picked up on this creepy image..

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  Please see below extracts from a letter originally written for elders and WT officials. It was written by Michael Graves, who studied commercial illustration, graphic arts and photograghy at Bakersfield College. His professional work includes medical photography, photomicrography, illustration and commercial photography.

  The letter is addressed "To whom it may concern," 21 February 1992:

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  "At first glance the illustrations [Watch Tower 'commercial art images depicting religious scenes'] I examined appeared quite normal, but after closer examination, it became apparent that there are many images and symbols integrated into the scenes. Upon further investigation of the illustrations, I noticed a consistent motif and repeatability of these same symbols in every illustration I studied. Some of the symbols and images are so obvious they interrupt the normal flow of lines, shape, and form of the artwork. It is quite apparent the illustrators would use highlights and shadows in the scenes to conceal the symbols in such a manner that they are not clearly distinguishable. However, armed with the knowledge that the symbols may be present, it becomes quite easy to distinguish and isolate these images from the given illustration.

  "In conclusion, it is my professional opinion that these figures are present in the illustrations, not by coincidence, but by clear conscious efforts by the originators of the artwork."

  Sincerely,

  [signature]

  For further info on an former JW insider's perspective, see Seven006's commentary:
  
  

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/147395/view-commercial-artists-on-wt-art?size=20&page=2
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  Disturbing hidden image in w15 04/15 page 9 (Not DF image)

  by campaign of hate in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  could someone do me a favor and post the picture on page 9 on the above mentioned watchtower.. i'll point it out, very surprised no one else has picked up on this creepy image..

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  Greetings, COH:

  I reiterate that there is no reason to insult individuals who raise questions about WT art. There are some who have studied this issue and stay with facts. If a person disagrees or finds this subject distasteful, he may simply bow out.

  What do you think of the following?

  AIR STREAM GRAPHIC DESIGN & ILLUSTRATION
  [pm me for phone number]

  [extracts from letter of 10 July 1990, addressed "To Whom It May Concern:"]

  "Because of my extensive professional experience, Darek Barefoot recently asked me to review a number of illustrations [in WT, AWAKE!, REVELATION CLIMAX and LIVE FOREVER].

  "It is my professional opinion that secondary images have been deliberately incorporated into many of the illustrations I have examined. The secondary images I have seen vary from symbolic shapes and letters of the alphabet to representations of faces and skulls, and deformities of certain extremities. These appear with enough consistency that in my opinion they are deliberate, not coincidental.

  "As a professional illustrator and painter, I am very aware of the amount of time and concentration that goes into a painting or an illustration. Any artist doing a piece is acutely aware of every line and brush stroke. It is therefore exremely difficult for me to believe that many of these images, objects, and shapes were not purposefully embedded into these illustrations in question."

  James Waggaman
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  Disturbing hidden image in w15 04/15 page 9 (Not DF image)

  by campaign of hate in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  could someone do me a favor and post the picture on page 9 on the above mentioned watchtower.. i'll point it out, very surprised no one else has picked up on this creepy image..

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  Revelation/Climax; page 52.